What are viable alternatives to Yeti coolers

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#1164490 - 13.10.1518:40Re: Sleeping Bag: Yeti or Wewtern Mountaineering [Re: Mutton]
I don't know the Yetis personally, but I own a World Cup myself, the Superlite. The quality is very good. Both the materials and their processing are top notch.

We probably have the same bag. But I would only give my own judgment after years (now only 1/2 year old), I found the down loss in the predecessor (Mountain Equipment Helium 400) quite abundant, so I was looking for a new brand, although I was upgrading a comfort level wanted. According to my Globetrotter advisor, Yeti and WM are at the top of the list for down quality - he rated WM even higher. I myself had compared the World Cup against a sack from Sea to Summit. They are technically built a little differently, also worth considering. In the end, the seller chatted me for so long that I took the World Cup. In contrast to Sea to Summit, the zipper is continuous at the World Cup, only a third at StS. StS would have been a little easier. The patriotic heart may speak in favor of Yeti because it is a German manufacturer. But I doubt that you can give a clear recommendation - not even to perhaps other brands.
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#1164502 - 13.10.1519:17Re: Sleeping Bag: Yeti or Wewtern Mountaineering [Re: Deul]
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I am a Yeti fan. Since I got a down jacket from them. That is unsurpassed.
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#1164528 - 13.10.1520:10Re: Sleeping Bag: Yeti or Wewtern Mountaineering [Re: Deul]
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The VIB is also pretty tight. I got myself a Marmot, it's pretty far.
I still have an older Yeti, comparable to the Sunrizer 500. It's ok, I just had it with me in the Vosges. Sometimes it pushes a down / feather out, but that seldom.
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#1164554 - 13.10.1521:06Re: Sleeping Bag: Yeti or Wewtern Mountaineering [Re: Deul]
I have now passed the Western Mountaineering and Yeti VIB sleeping bag on to my daughters. I have preferred the Cumulus Tenequa 700 for two seasons, summer and winter. It's spacious. Cumulus is a reputable mail order company many times confirmed, inexpensive. As you already know, the delivery conditions for a World Cup are dubious.
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#1164569 - 13.10.1522:50Re: Sleeping bag: Yeti or Western Mountaineering [Re: Deul]
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When it comes to quality, WM is at the forefront, but I would also consider Feathered Friends and Valandre, although they are sometimes hard to come by in D. Also of interest are Rab, Marmot, MH, Carinthia ...
I really can't understand the problems with ME, we have 4 ME sleeping bags in use (the Glacier 500 is probably my most used sleeping bag) and down loss (if any) is really minimal.
At Fligfix, you can still get Warmth Unlimited sleeping bags at a reasonable price, and they are also worth a look.
Unfortunately, I have had bad experiences with the Exped workshop shop more than once, and the lack of a return option is certainly not a plus point.
Exped sleeping bags ... there are probably fluctuating down quality, an ordered sleeping bag was at best the quality of a several years old middle class sleeping bag, I have to look for the thread in the outdoor forum, also described to some extent here in post # 6: click.
Cumulus: Interesting in terms of price, as long as you don't want any extras, such as endurance outer shell, changed cut (then usually more down is necessary) ... The other shell (or now the water-repellent down) should also be at C. "normal" down is more sensitive to moisture. And above all try it out: the hooded drawstring on the face, the sticky zipper, ... could one day be made better.
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#1164582 - 14.10.1500:10Re: Sleeping bag: Yeti or Western Mountaineering [Re: BaB]
... the sticky zip, ... (with Cumulus) could one day be improved.

That is also incomprehensible to me. When I close the zipper, I pull the zipper up hard and give it a neat guide, then it only gets stuck sometimes.
Perhaps this weakness has already been remedied.
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#1164609 - 14.10.1508:09Re: Sleeping bag: Yeti or Western Mountaineering [Re: BaB]
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I really can't understand the problems with ME, we have 4 ME sleeping bags in use (the Glacier 500 is probably my most used sleeping bag) and down loss (if any) is really minimal.

You're a thin herring too. If you have a bit of corpulence * and * are a restless sleeper then you stretch the outer fabric so that enough down and feathers come out at the seams. I'm afraid that this has nothing to do with the manufacturer, only with the use and sleeper.
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#1164618 - 14.10.1508:35Re: Sleeping bag: Yeti or Western Mountaineering [Re: BaB]
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In answer to: turning circle
Perhaps this weakness has already been remedied.
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When I close the zipper, I pull the zipper up hard and give it a neat guide, then it only gets stuck sometimes.
So even though you pay attention when you pull it shut, the RV is sticking? That sounds less like fixed ...


You're right, of course - if I try sooooooo hard, then it rarely gets stuck ! In fact, it would be nice to have a duvet bag, where you can simply pull the zipper without thinking and is good. I haven't met them yet. I would be grateful for a link to the Cumulus trick.

I'm a Cumulus fan, but (apart from sufficient length) I have no special requirements for fit, equipment, etc., the main thing is WARM! I think Cumulus is only for people who want to get the maximum amount of warmth with little money, people who like to loosen up the change for something "perfect" (like many of the inmates here with their "Rondonören"), are out of place .
Kind regards - Panta Rhei
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#1164621 - 14.10.1509:00Re: Sleeping bag: Yeti or Western Mountaineering [Re: haegar]
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I can confirm that. I have an Exped Comfort sleeping bag. That was relatively cheap. The zipper can be pulled up and down without hesitation, even when half asleep, because all the great devices to prevent yourself from freezing off in the Himalayas are missing. It's a summer sleeping bag. The materials are cozy. You can do excellent humming tops.

But it bounces. I always blow them out of the tent in the morning. And now after three years of use (approx. 66 nights per year) it has become significantly less voluminous.

Comfort range from 5 degrees. We only cycle with tents in summer temperatures. But it is still enough for me even in light frost. To be more precise, I only closed the zipper 3 times all the way to the top. That was always on nights when you had to scrape ice on the tent in the morning. Most of the time I just use it as a blanket.
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#1164967 - 15.10.1518:40Re: Sleeping Bag: Yeti or Wewtern Mountaineering [Re: Deul]
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Warmth unlimited tends to be very wide. Sometimes they are also reasonably priced. I don't know what you're up to, but I see no reason to spend that much money on a sleeping bag. However, there is a lot of headache here - that someone would find an Apache at -15 degrees wonderful - that is probably typical of WM users.
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#1165042 - 15.10.1522:38Re: Sleeping Bag: Yeti or Wewtern Mountaineering [Re: turning circle]
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Interesting. In the outdoor forum there are many voices that the Cumulus is rather tight ... I can only recommend trying it out myself, which some perceive to be tight is far for others. I don't think Apache and Antelope are exactly narrow ... not narrower than the Panyam.

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Cumulus is a reputable mail order company many times confirmed, inexpensive.
Well, maybe a look at the outdoor pages here, too, where every question about a sleeping bag starts with the request to fill out the questionnaire and then always and fundamentally (and completely independent of the answers) to refer to Cumulus ... Hast you read how many people have problems with the length of the sleeping bags even though they have given their height beforehand? And C does not manufacture to the centimeter, but just like ME, JW, Salewa ... by adding entire chambers.
Inexpensive ... Well, if you take the model off the shelf. A little longer? No problem, the surcharge is not without ... How? Was that just referring to the outer material? Oh, there is down again for 30 €? Isn't it included with other manufacturers when you buy a longer copy?
Noticeably less filled at the bottom and they are side / belly bats? No problem, then a little overvill below ... Waterproof outer cover because of the delicate down? Then the cash register rings ... At some point you can buy a World Cup directly ...

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As you already know, the delivery conditions for a World Cup are dubious.
Even if Deul is meant: could you explain that to me? I'm just getting a little pissed off ... I was very satisfied with the delivery conditions for my World Cups, thanks to Globi: I chose my sleeping bag, tried it out, went to the checkout and paid.

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#1165051 - 15.10.1523:14Re: Sleeping Bag: Yeti or Wewtern Mountaineering [Re: BaB]
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Interesting. In the outdoor forum there are many voices that the Cumulus is rather tight ...

Look at someone: you can already hear voices.
The Cumulus Tenequa has a bust size of 85 cm. There are few others with this large bust size.
http://schlafsacke-cumulus.de/de/ategor...72213fc1c4ea970
Your attempts to piss off Cumulus are very questionable.