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Hi Guys!

I'm doing the Sun Certified Programmer SCJP 5.0 on Friday
I would like to know if there is an exam tool that you can use, or any other files or links that could help me.

Please, that would be extremely important.

mfg theone

There is such a web-based free test somewhere on the Sun website with questions very similar to those in the real test ...

Do you have a link? Unfortunately find nothing!

mfg theone

http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/WGS-PREX-10-QUEST.xml

Hi everyone,

wanted to find out how the exam went. do you have a few tips on what to ask? would like to do that soon too.

greetings
ds

Many questions are about threads.

Some concern interfaces and derivatives, constructor calls.

Some examples are in the manner:

String s1 = "abc";
String s2 = "def";

s1.concat (s2);
s2 = s1.concat (s2);

System.out.println (s1);
System.out.println (s2);

What's on the console?

A very important question that came up for everyone I know who has done it (but it was for Java 1.4.2): When is the finally block executed?

Answer: Always except in the event of a power failure.

So you have to play compilers a few times, but that's all within limits and not too difficult.

ok thanks, then I'll get on with it soon.

btw, the answer (without having started the compiler beforehand):


ABC
abcdef

(since string objects cannot be changed ...) Is that correct?

correct

It wasn't bad at all.

in the description of the scjp test it says that questions with drag & drop could also come up. what exactly is meant by this, what could such a drag & drop question look like?

I believe that what is meant here is not the content of the question, but the nature of the question. But for me there were actually only questions to tick and there is really nothing to be afraid of.

so drag & drop means placing expressions within code blocks. I've now bought a testing simulator like this (http://www.whizlabs.com/) and the questions that come up in the java5 test are pretty heavy ...

Hey
- I have now managed the SCJP 5.0 (212-055) - 76% - English.
- I can only tell you that you should buy the book if you want to do that - it really is the best preparation.
(By the way, passing on test questions etc. is strictly forbidden and will also be punished.)
lg greetz suso

and what is the name of the book?
So I get along with the whizlab tool quite well, the explanations are great and there is further information on the sun doku, other mock exams, etc. for each question.

the book is called scjp ^^ - is the preparation book for exactly the certificate - made by the certificate makers;)

Hello,

I'll just hang on to the topic, I hope that's okay ...

Well, I am a student and therefore I don't necessarily need any certifications, but since it definitely can't hurt if you can prove that you can also apply all the theoretical knowledge in practice in case of doubt, I wanted to ask the group in a very ignorant manner, where to start.
I have already asked the Sun website, of course, but I haven't really figured it out, specifically I have the following questions, for example:

-Can I take any exam or do certain exams require lower-level exams to be taken?
-How much are the exam fees (I didn't plan to take any training courses)?
-How long are the certifications valid?
-Is the SCJA worth it or is the part as ridiculous as it sounds at first glance? (Now from a programmer's point of view)

Oh, in case anyone is wondering why a CS student thinks about something like that: I've been following a kind of "take everything that is within reach, you never know what you might need it for" tactic for a long time and if the exam fees are fairly reasonable (e.g. comparable to those for SATs and TOEFLs), then I would also tackle that in the Java area ...

So long
Liberty

P.S .:
My parents never really know what to give me for Christmas anyway: p

Whether you are a student or not, being able to prove your knowledge with certifications is always a good thing. nowadays it is no longer enough just to have good grades on your diploma certificate. the companies want to see international experience, tens of years of professional experience and what else do I know. i study computer science and i have already been told by some colleagues that during interviews for the internship semester - if the position has a Java-specific character - some questions from the SCJP certification are asked (apply for a sap position in the netweaver and you know what I'm talking about;))

you have to know for yourself where to start. if you want to focus more on system administration, you should take a look at the cisco and lpi certificates. I don't think much of the MS certificates or haven't heard much good about them ... employers shouldn't take them so seriously ...

You can find out which certificates are required for other exams on the sun page:
http://www.sun.com/training/certification/java/index.xml

SCJP costs $ 150

The SCJA is not worthwhile because you need the SCJP to be able to do the other certificates (SCJD etc.). but if you are satisfied with an "entry level" certificate then do the SCJA.

greetings
ds

Hello,

thank you for the information and I also have the fear that the German job market is pretty exhausted. I'm also not really sure whether you can score big with studying abroad, well, it won't hurt ...

At the moment I am keeping a career in the Bundeswehr open as an option on the German job market, but since there is a strong trend towards outsourcing, as a computer scientist you will be able to forget that in the long run; no matter, I'll stop fighting again and Afghanistan should be nice in the spring too: D

But back to my core question ...

I'm still thinking about whether I should start with the SCJA for the sake of completeness or do the SCJP right away, but I still lack some essential information to decide that:

How long are the Sun certificates valid? I can't really imagine that they'll last forever ...

So long
Liberty

P.S .:
What is supposed to be particularly bad about the MS certificates? Ok, as a non-certified person I once had to explain to an MS certified person that "scandisk" is called "chkdsk" from Win2K, but otherwise ...
P.P.S .:
Actually, I don't think all this certificate craze of today is healthy at all, but unfortunately it is no longer possible today, even if in general I sometimes doubt whether these certificates really say anything about the quality of an individual's work, because personally I attract people with the attitude "Never heard of it, but give me 24 hours and then ask me again!" those with the attitude "I have a certificate for the use of paper clips and that's exactly what I can do, no more, no less." in front. But I'm pretty much alone with that today. And sometimes it is really amusing what applicants put on slips of paper with their application, since an applicant who has applied to my parents to be a lawyer has submitted a certificate of successful participation in dance courses. Has created general amusement in the office: p
P.P.P.S .:
This attitude could also have something to do with my somewhat disturbed relationship with "Dipl.-Ings." have to do ;)

Actually, I don't think all this certificate craze of today is healthy at all, but unfortunately it is no longer possible today, even if in general I sometimes doubt whether these certificates really say anything about the quality of an individual's work, because personally I attract people with the attitude "Never heard of it, but give me 24 hours and then ask me again!" those with the attitude "I have a certificate for the use of paper clips and that's exactly what I can do, no more, no less." in front.

I actually see it that way, but I can also understand the HR staff. After all, a certificate says that you have at least certain knowledge in the area. That doesn't mean that you are good and committed, and certainly not that you are a team player. But they offer a little more clues than your faithful eyes and your flattering mouth.

yes that's right, certificates don't necessarily say anything about your knowledge and competence. But nowadays it is simply demanded by many companies. and if you have a few certificates in your pocket that can definitely affect your salary level when you are hired. and that is the main reason why everyone is so excited about the certifications.

@Liberty
I would advise you to go to the SCJP because then you have the opportunity to take the higher exams.

because of the validity:


How long is my Sun certification title now valid?
As of August 1, 2003, all Sun certifications are now based on versions. There is no expiration date to your certification title. You may, however, be certified on a technology that is outdated if Sun releases a new exam associated with a new technology version. Keeping your certification current is highly recommended.

Reading the FAQ is good: http://www.sun.com/training/certification/faq/index.html

the book mentioned here is really good, but the tests in it (there is a cd with) have nothing to do with the questions in the scjp test.

otherwise the book is also very good for theoretical background knowledge (I call it that) what the compiler still does in the background, etc.

as I said, it comes rel. much on threads.
What I found very confusing about the code questions was that the variable definitions usually look like this:
string foo = "bar";
string bar = "foo";
string foobar = "barfoo"
and so on.
it is not difficult but such a junk confused and if you do the whole thing with a little more meaningful variable names it is much clearer.

the test itself is rather simpler compared to the ms test.
and the sjcd is really hardcore (as an introduction: you have 1 year to work on the task, you have to write 1 program, write an excerpt about it and then get questions from sun (about its program code) and have to answer them)

easier than the MS tests? I can hardly imagine ... well, I'll see;)

: This is net easier than an ms test;)

PASSED !!!! woooo :) * happy *
can't believe it yet. crouched in the exam room and with every question i got smaller and smaller. sweat like hell But the last few months of intensive learning helped, it was close (68%), but the main thing was passed.

so it was by no means easy. Sometimes it went even deeper into the details than was stated in my examination papers, but in the end it was enough.

so, first of all I'm partying ... cheers!

what occurs to me at the moment:
before i started the certification i had to take part in a survey. There were questions about "How do you value your knowledge in the area of ​​threads / collections / generics / OO / API / ..." and the answers were experts, intermediate, beginners, don't know.

I clicked intermediate everywhere. After the exam, I really thought about whether this survey had an influence on the degree of difficulty of the questions;)

I was the first in the exam room, about 10 minutes later someone else came in, and 20 minutes later a third one. both finished earlier than me. In the end, I was busy with the exam for a little more than 2 hours because there was hardly a question for which the solution was obvious. So no simple questions like the immutable string mentioned above or questions about the finalize method or questions about the access modifier for interface variables and methods or direct questions about collections. everything was thrown together somehow: thread programming, generics, collections and then you should know what comes out (if at all) and, if necessary, find the solution via drag & drop.

i have one more question about the certificate. in the case of IBM certificates, I can download them directly as a pdf. do i also have the option of receiving sun certificates as pdf? I registered on the certmanager page, but only see the history etc. any ideas?

greetings
ds

: D - the survey has nothing to do with the certificate - really net;)
- I did it certificate too (78%)
I'm happy for you, celebrate beautifully
greetz suso

btw, there is no pdf download or something similar. but sun seems to be pretty quick with shipping. according to certmanager the package has already been sent ... at LPI I had to wait over a month. I'm curious :)

Hello !

I'll put my questions directly in this thread, even if nothing has been going on here for 2 months:

I want to do the SCJA and later also the SCJP.

Question 1: It said on this thread that the exam costs $ 150. Can you take the exam through Sun USA or do you have to do it through the German training center? Then the fun costs 250 € for an SCJA or SCJP exam. I have no idea why the German training center adds so much: confused:, but since most of the books are in English, I don't see any advantage in taking the exam in German.

Question 2: Which books for exam preparation can you recommend?

I am thankful for every answer.

Many greetings, Stefan

Since you are grateful for every answer anyway, I can unfortunately only give you a little advice:

Contact a training center, get all the brochures on the subject, pretend you want to take a course (maybe you do) and ask which books are recommended for it. Usually they are always very friendly there.

Because back then I only took the exam and at that time I still paid in schillings, I think. So I have no idea what that might cost today. Furthermore, Java has developed further (Mustang has recently been released) and thus the exam has probably also developed further and there are now completely different areas of subject matter.

mfg, christian

Thanks for the answer.

I don't really want to do a course. Actually, I can also use Java, so I just want to take the exam. Then I just turn to the German training center and ask for ...

Regards, Stefan

Hello !

I'll put my questions directly in this thread, even if nothing has been going on here for 2 months:

I want to do the SCJA and later also the SCJP.

Question 1: It said on this thread that the exam costs $ 150. Can you take the exam through Sun USA or do you have to do it through the German training center? Then the fun costs 250 € for an SCJA or SCJP exam. I have no idea why the German training center adds so much: confused:, but since most of the books are in English, I don't see any advantage in taking the exam in German.

Question 2: Which books for exam preparation can you recommend?

I am thankful for every answer.

Many greetings, Stefan

hi, why don't you start with the SCJP? Although it is not a requirement for the SCEA, it is certainly a good start and goes faster.

I did the SCJP exam here in USA, you can e.g. Register for it via www.prometric.com. it costs $ 150 and thus something around 120EUR, you can't really say anything. you don't have to register via the sun page, you don't need a voucher and you don't need any training. I can always recommend the "head first" series as a book. I'm currently studying for the SCWCD with the book "head first - servlets & JSP" and it's great. take a look at amazon for the book "head first - java", this covers the exam topics wonderfully.

btw, SCEA are 2 parts, each part costs $ 200. the SCWCD exam costs $ 200.

greetings
ds

Thanks again! I have now also contacted the SUN training center and there is probably nothing to shake about the price.

Not even via Prometrics: For Germans in Germany this costs € 210 plus VAT. It just depends on where you live ...

I'll take a look at the books then.

Regards, cpt.crispy

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